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Long John Silver's Return to Treasure Island


This is a place to discuss Robert Newton's performance as the title character in the 1954 Treasure Island Australian-made sequel, Long John Silver, upon which the 26-episode TV series was based, along with other aspects of the film.

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O.K., fellow Pirates of the Carribean fans, watch this film and see if you don't recognize a few plot lines.
When I saw the first POTC in the theatre with my friends, we chatted after and they remarked about how much they liked the plot: A mysterious medallion, the Governor's daughter by the name of Elizabeth, and a pirate who is enlisted to rescue her - of course for his own personal gain. (Granted, the spin on these elements is vastly different between the two films, but they're there, none the less.)
All I could think was, "Ha! They think this idea is new!" So I told them to watch Long John Silver's Return to Treasure Island. At first they weren't too keen on the idea, thinking that a film from the 1950's would be boring. But they did watch it and thought it was cool, mostly because Bobbie is so much darn fun to watch! Newton's characterization of Silver goes far beyond just having one leg strapped up or changing his voice. He uses his entire body - even his face. Every move and gesture adds to the believability and enjoyment of the performance.
And what to say about Miss Purity. Connie Gilchrist is an absolute delight! Without giving anything away, all I can say is, Poor Capn' Silver! emoticon
Watch this film and enjoy!


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ha, that's cool. My firend and I were watching POTC once and Johnny Depp said "something, something, Elizabeth" and my friend leaned over and said "I bet that sounds good!"
So I was watching LJS and he doesn't say our name the first time, I'm like "well that was a slight let down" But needless to say I still love the movie.
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A mysterious medallion, the Governor's daughter by the name of Elizabeth, and a pirate who is enlisted to rescue her - of course for his own personal gain.



Hmmm ... you know, I did notice the similarity in the names--even the last names: Elizabeth/Governor Swann vs. Elizabeth/Governor Strong. But I didn't connect the medallion and the pirate being enlisted to rescue her for his own personal gain. Wow, they really did rip off LJS! (Although LJS rehashed a lot of Treasure Island itself.) No wonder the first POTC movie was so much better than the sequels! (I've said a number of times on the Geoffrey Rush board, whenever someone mentions how they've run out of sequel ideas for the movies, that the LJS series managed to come up with 26 different storylines for the TV episodes; you'd think given a few years in between, these screenwriters could come up with something decent for the POTC films! And something piratey ... and Caribbeany this time please instead of fantastical monsters and FX. If they can't think of anything, just ask us, the fans who are already doing their jobs by filling the gaps with fanfic.)

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To the best of my knowledge, Long John Silver's Return to Treasure Island is, like the majority of Bobbie's films, in the public domain, so there are umpteen kerzillion different versions of it available on prerecorded media.

I have 2 different VHS tapes and 3 different DVDs. The only one of the lot that is widescreen is the VCI DVD. It is, however TOO wide.

Here are examples; the same scene first as captured directly from the DVD:
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Then after I fixed the height to width ratio:
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And a snappy from the same scene from my Delta DVD:
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And from my Elstree Hill DVD:

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Clearly the VCI DVD is superior in picture clarity and I love the widescreen format, but the ratio problem takes away from the viewing pleasure. emoticon

Did I get the ratio adjustment right on the second pic? It is a judgment call. Even the two pan & scan ones don't quite agree with each other on the ratio! emoticon

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To the best of my knowledge, Long John Silver's Return to Treasure Island is, like the majority of Bobbie's films, in the public domain, so there are umpteen kerzillion different versions of it available on prerecorded media.



Kim Newton told me he now holds the copyright to both the film and the TV series, so they're not in the public domain, although a number of others are.

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Kim Newton told me he now holds the copyright to both the film and the TV series, so they're not in the public domain, although a number of others are.



Good to know. So which of all those different versions floating around are legit and which are bootleg???

The Ellstree Hill ones are region 2, the others are either region 1 or region-free; I'd have to check.

How does one find out which films are in the public domain?

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Kim Newton told me he now holds the copyright to both the film and the TV series, so they're not in the public domain, although a number of others are.



Good to know. So which of all those different versions floating around are legit and which are bootleg???

How does one find out which films are in the public domain?



Both good questions. I wish I knew the answers!

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I just contacted Kim with your question, and the answer is ... none of them are legit; ALL ARE IN VIOLATION OF COPYRIGHT! Unfortunately, they seem to be all we have at the moment; the originals have gone missing, preventing Kim from producing a legitimate, good-quality copy of the series. emoticon So if anybody has any leads on where the originals have gone, any help would be appreciated!

PS: I looked at that "before & after demo" on the VCI version (not that I claim to own a copy, ahem emoticon), and to me, the "before" version looks a lot better than the "after" version. The before looks a little washed-out, but I can make out a lot more detail, and the picture looks much sharper.

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I agree with Susan. The before pics look better. Thanks for posting 'em.
None of the copies are legit?? Ye Gods!!!

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