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This is a place to discuss Robert Newton's performance as Blackbeard the Pirate (1952) directed by Raoul Walsh, along with other aspects of the film, comparisons to the historical Blackbeard, etc.

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O.K., I have wanted to see this film for a long time and I managed to get a hold of a copy of it the other day. But, I have to say that the only thing I enjoyed about the film was RN's performance. It was so over the top, but that was what was needed. And in the process, he carried the film.
The exaggerated movements, the 'pirate speak' which he invented, combined with the costuming/wig/beard (those little red ribbons! emoticon ) proved for a great performance.
I loved the scenes between Blackbeard and Mistress Alvina...it really allowed RN to show off that great sense of comic timing that he had!

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Glad you got to see it. I felt the same way. He did have great comedic timing. His talent is most painfully obvious in his scenes with the totally miscast William Bendix. I enjoyed his scenes with Alvina, as well as with Noll, the beach bum (played by Alan Mowbray). "Gather to me! Gather to me!" emoticon (What happened afterwards wasn't so great though. Poor poodle head.) He really needed a more compatible ensemble to make that movie work. (Like the cast of Treasure Island--Ralph Truman was great as George Merry. And the guy who plays Ben Gunn makes Robert Newton's performance seem subtle.)

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(What happened afterwards wasn't so great though. Poor poodle head.) He really needed a more compatible ensemble to make that movie work.


Oh, that ending was gruesome. Not historically accurate at all, but still good.
"Poor poodle head"! LOL! You're right - that wig did look like poodle hair!

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(Like the cast of Treasure Island--Ralph Truman was great as George Merry. And the guy who plays Ben Gunn makes Robert Newton's performance seem subtle.)


That was one of the great things about the casting of Treasure Island. Such a great abundance of character actors, all hamming it up at the same time! Ah, togetherness...
If only the producers had cared enough to cast Blackbeard the Pirate well - it would have been nice for RN I'm sure to have had more good actors to play off of.

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"Poor poodle head"! LOL! You're right - that wig did look like poodle hair!



Actually, I was talking about Noll, the look-alike (played by Alan Mowbray). At one point the Dutch guy calls him "that poodle-headed beachbum vot tinks he's you."

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That was one of the great things about the casting of Treasure Island. Such a great abundance of character actors, all hamming it up at the same time! Ah, togetherness...
If only the producers had cared enough to cast Blackbeard the Pirate well - it would have been nice for RN I'm sure to have had more good actors to play off of.



So true!

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Oh yes, Noll! Thanks for clarifying. That whole lookalike segment was an interesting aspect of the film.

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The Noll and Alvina scenes and "Maynyard! *burp* Maynyard! *gobble, slurp* I got a pain in my innards!" were the best parts. That and the scene where Worley confronts him on the ship as he's trying to steal the treasure, and if you thought he was overacting before ... ! OMG, this time he's doing it on purpose (who knew ham came in so many flavors?--and Robert Newton was master of them all!)--making William Bendix's performance seem even more catatonic. But after that, it's all downhill. I hated the ending. (If only they'd have picked one genre instead of trying to make a gritty pirate movie, romance, comedy, and horror movie all rolled into one! It worked in Pirates of the Caribbean--the first movie, that is--but Blackbeard, to me, just seems like an incoherent mess, as if it had three different scriptwriters all working independently ... and no director to pull it together. A more skillful melding of genres, or just plain sticking with one, might have made it easier to find a compatible cast too.)

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i can't find it anywhere, but i want to see it!
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Try Netflix, Elizabeth. That's where I got it.

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I think you can probably get a copy on either Amazon.com or eBay.
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