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Thanks for your extensive answer. I guess some of the conversations I read on the othe chatroom sounded so immediate, I thought they were in real time.

I'll give you a little bit about myself -- later will do one of those intro things under your name.

I had the TV on while I was reading and Jamaica Inn came on. I heard myself say "oh" and I ran into the bedroom to DVR it on that set.

A loooong time ago, we had just bought a new house in Akron, Ohio and I was home alone watching television in an empty and only partially furnished big house. That night on the late show, "The Fall of the House of Unsher" came on and scared me half to death. I was about twelve. But another time, late at night, Jamaica Inn came on. Those are the only two I remember from those days. I fell in love with JI and always remembered it. In those days I was also reading, "I Capture the Castle" so you can tell how in the clouds my head was. I probably saw it again sometime in between then and now but it was that last viewing that captured my total interest in Robert Newton. So I googled him and found your site. Over several evenings I read the whole Thing.
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Part II - I ran out of room. I thought some of the other answers were longer. Anyway, I'll be brief. I was an actresss for many years so got interested in your make-up discussions and your biographical information. The thing I'm curious about is his marriages. Four in 27 years is a pretty good (or bad) track record. Was he just overly romantic or did his drinking drive them mad? I don't know who your connections are, but there might still be some actors who would remember him -- or stories they heard about them. Albert Finney and Peter O'Tool were legendary drinkers and actors repeat those kind of stories ad infinitum. Maybe they heard about him. In those days sevrets were better kept from the public, but they probably wouldn't mind telling them now. Nevin didn't mind after RN was gone. Those days between the wars were exciting theatre days, more should be written about them. I also like all the myteries written in those years. True O'toole, etc. were younger, but he WAS a legend. Oh, I guess you just keep typing to go on. Anyhow that's enough for now. Lacy
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Thanks for sharing more about you, Lacy. It'd be really interesting to get your perspectives as an actress on some things (like the make-up issue, etc.). Glad you're here.

Seems like the conversation goes in spurts here, so some may seem more immediate than others.

As for his marriages, from what I've read, he wasn't an easy person to live with, between the drinking and his tendency to live his roles off-screen ... like I don't think I'd want to be around when he was getting in character for Hatter's Castle! It also sounds like he had a bit of a wanderlust. Then again, multiple marriages seem pretty de rigeur in show business.

I don't know if I'd want to get any drinking stories from anybody who didn't know him personally. Those stories get told and retold and embellished along the way, so you really can't rely on them. There are certain ones I've already heard at least three versions of, and one version didn't even involve Robert Newton. Besides, I'd rather hear some non-drinking stories about him instead; those are much harder to come by. They may be less entertaining, but I'm really interested in what he was like as a person, you know, that kind, generous, warm-hearted person everyone keeps saying he was when he wasn't drinking but then fail to give examples. (Some of the drinking stories get pretty bad.) I'd like to have a more balanced view of him. I really wish he'd got the chance to write his own memoirs.

So you first discovered him through Jamaica Inn? I don't know if I'd ever have become a fan of his based on that one movie--heroic leading men aren't really my type; I mainly swoon for offbeat character actors! That's why I didn't recognize him when I first saw it in 1978 ... even after I saw pictures of him from the movie, I was like, "That's Robert Newton???" I had to struggle to see the resemblance to Long John Silver and Bill Sikes and Bill Walker and James Brodie who were already engrained in my head at that point; I'd never even heard him talk in his regular voice/accent before that. (I think that's why Emlyn Williams made more of an impression on me--he had "the scruff"! Which ironically he doesn't sport in any other movie I've seen him in. Although, his hair is pretty wild in Ivanhoe--and in full color!)

So I wonder, with the leading-man Bob for your first impression of him, did you have the reverse experience to mine?

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[The thing I'm curious about is his marriages. Four in 27 years is a pretty good (or bad) track record. Was he just overly romantic or did his drinking drive them mad?]

Let me see here...if you divide four into 27 then you get approx 7 years, right? Does that qualify for the 'seven year itch'? Remember that movie? Anyway, kidding aside, I know that he didn't just have a 7 year marriage with each of his wives but that would be the average. He certainly wasn't opposed to marriage, that much we do know. As Susan already said, I suppose he wasn't exactly easy to live with, but you never really know where the fault fell. There are always two people that make a marriage. However, drinking is not easy to deal with either.
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Hi Everyone,

My name is Trisha. I've been a very big fan of Robert Newton since seeing Treasure Island in 7th grade. Over the years, I've collected various films he has starred in, and I love them all! Of course, my sentimental favorite role of his will always be Long John Silver. He played the part to perfection in my eyes.

Anyway, I've been visiting Susan's Web site for a very long time, and I'm extremely thrilled that she continues to update it. May RN's legacy live on!! emoticon

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OMGZ!!!! I <3 ur avatar!!!! t's awesomeness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! emoticon emoticon emoticon
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Arr, great avatar indeed, matey!

Welcome to the new board, Trisha. Nice to have you back. emoticon

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Glad to meet you, Trisha!
I must concur...nice avat-arr! emoticon
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Hello, I am a new member.

I began to love Robert Newton since I watched Jamaica inn

in 2011. He is one of my favorite actors.

I love 1920s and 1940s' United Kingdom because I am

partial to those eras of U.K and there are favorite actors

such as Robert Newton. He is usually cute looking and

sometimes looks wonderful. Especially James Trehearn is

my favorite character among his roles.


 
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I too have wondered about his marriages. He was very young when he married his first wife. his daughter was born very soon after so it may have been a shotgun wedding! He met his second wife when she was doing some voice-over work at the BBC. She only died recently at the age of 100. She remembered him as a 'tall, gentle man with striking good looks, warmth and charisma-who was a rather naughty boy.' He was in the navy for most of their marriage, which seems to have been relatively happy-although they had no children. She left him in 1945 and eventually married a mutual friend. His third marriage was a disaster due to his wife's emotional problems. She eventually had some kind of nervous breakdown and accused him of trying to steal their son and take him abroad. This was about the time of 'Oliver Twist', so he was probably on the booze at the time. his last marriage was only short, but according to David Niven his wife was very loyal and tried to help him kick the booze-he died in her arms at home.
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